Batwoman Season 3 Episode 7 Recap – Nick Creegan On The Game [Spoiler]
Warning: The following contains spoilers from Batwomanthe mid-season finale.
And just like that, another iconic villain arrived on Batwoman.
Wednesday’s midseason finale delivered a crazy hour that saw Team Bat hunt down Alice and Mary, who took on the character of Poison Ivy after being infected with one of Pam Isley’s vines. Batwoman offered Mary an antidote, and the evil debutante refused because she didn’t want to be saved. In fact, she reveled in this new identity, which she believed to be her true self. Mary is no longer a sidekick.
Meanwhile, Jada Jet’s attempt to freeze her son to prevent him from becoming the Joker has failed. Halfway through the freezing process, Marquis escaped, murdered a security guard with a fancy pen, and confronted Ryan for betraying him while secretly working with Jada. After asking for and gaining Ryan’s resignation as CEO of Wayne Enterprises, Marquis publicly announced he would take over. He also debuted a new look: purple dreads, a fitted orange suit, and an evil smile.
With the Arrowverse series taking a short hiatus, TVLine reached out to Nick Creegan, who plays Marquis, aka the new Joker, to discuss his take on the fan-favorite villain. Read our interview with the actor below.
TV LINE | When did you know you would be playing the Joker?
i thought it was fair [auditioning for] Marquis Jet, that sexy playboy who was cocky and he gets everything he needs from his mom. Funny enough, I wore a purple shirt during my audition. Two weeks before I fly to Vancouver [where Batwoman films], I had a FaceTime meeting with [showrunner] Caroline Dries, and she said to me, ‘Hey, Nick… There’s really no other way to say that, but you’re becoming the new Joker.’ My face was frozen and my jaw literally dropped. I was immediately shocked, excited, scared, intimidated. I had all the feelings at the same time. So I knew just before I flew to Vancouver to start filming.
TV LINE | Have you thought about previous versions of the Joker while playing your version of the character?
Right away I thought of Joaquin Phoenix because it was the last version of the Joker I saw. Even though Joaquin Phoenix is legendary [and] won the Oscar for the role, the late Heath Ledger – everyone loved his portrayal of the Joker as well… I realized this was going to be the first of its kind in a sense because there was never anyone from color has never portrayed this role before, and tried to approach everything with an individual mind. So while I respect every Joker that came before me, I wanted to make it an original piece of what I considered this character to be. I use a lot of my own life experiences, the loss of loved ones and things of that nature to inject the pain, hurt and misunderstanding of Marquis. Since this is the show where there is the first black woman and lesbian superhero, I realized that I was going to be the first black man to play a role that kids can dress up as Halloween someday. They will be able to see her purple locks and say, “I want purple locks” and “I want to dress like Marquis and be the Joker.” So I took it as something brand new, even though I was thinking of the other Jokers. But I realized it was the first of its kind.
TV LINE | How would you describe your take on the Joker?
Marquis makes sense with his words. He is very charismatic and charming. I think he attracts people with his way of speaking to an audience. In Episode 7, you see that when he makes that speech at the end and asks some questions that make you wonder, “Is he crazy?” Or could I understand why someone can feel what they are feeling? ‘ In later episodes, people will definitely be able to understand some of the things he is saying. I don’t tolerate any harm to other human beings, but when it comes to his philosophy of treating people with mental illness fairly and not just as an outcast, I think people will be able to agree with that part. Marquis is one of the most complicated characters in the series. I feel like my interpretation of him is aimed at getting people to think more deeply about mental health and awareness, and how we treat people with mental health issues.
TV LINE | How did you approach mental health through this character?
I think the most telling part is that we have so many people in our own lives who might not feel seen, or who might not feel like they have the capacity to move in a healthy way. People are often told, ‘Don’t cry. It’s for a girl ”, where we tell women to be more feminine. In fact, we should be able to express ourselves in a healthy way from the start so that we never get to a point like Marquis Jet. With Marquis, the truth is that he never felt fully loved and understood by his family. He feels like an outcast. He always felt like he wasn’t enough for his mother, and he always felt like he really didn’t have anyone else to lean on.
The other part is that he’s relying on the fact that it’s not his fault. He didn’t ask the Joker to zap him with a joyful buzzer and change his brain makeup, so he doesn’t feel like he should be punished for being who he is. I think it’s a metaphor for the people in our own lives who were born with certain characteristics or disorders like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, things of that nature that they didn’t ask for. We should not treat them as if they are second class citizens. I think it just made me a lot more aware of the care we give to our loved ones and people who might have a bad day and we write them off. I just feel like we need to be more empathetic towards people with certain types of illnesses.
TV LINE | Something you can tease on the upcoming trip?
Fans have a lot to look forward to in terms of classic Joker memories. There will be certain situations, items, stories in the mix that the original Joker from the comics has always had a hand in. Marquis will exploit some things that will remind people of the original Joker. You can also expect him to really give the bat team a run for their money. The first episode after the midseason finale is going to be very intense and crazy, and they’re going to get a full dose of what Marquis has to offer. By the end of the season, I think some people’s hair will turn gray. It’s going to be a stressful season for people who love the good guys.
TV LINE | Mary and Marquis seem to have a similar point of view in terms of feeling underrated and underrated. Did you also find any similarities between them?
First of all, I’m so happy that Nicole Kang, who now plays Poison Ivy, also had this opportunity. She is also the first Asian American woman to play this role. She and I have been talking and supporting each other throughout this trip this season, and we’re so excited for each other, so we have similarities. And then in the current series, I agree that there is a lot of overlap in the characteristics of Mary and Marquis. Who knows? Maybe at some point fans will be able to see these two in the same place at the same time.